No Amin, Iran is not Nice to Christians or any other Non-Muslims
John R. Houk
© September 20, 2011
Amin’s ire is still up about me complaining about persecution of Christians in Iran. Amin is responding to this post: “Amin Claims there NO Persecution of Christians in Iran”. I refuted Amin in that post. Below is Amin’s current comment followed by my refutation.
JRH 9/20/11
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Amin Comment [** Look for the asterisks below to see the unedited version of Amin’s comment]
September 20, 2011
I answered you in this way: First I live in Iran. I know everything about Iran. Second I do not write [about] Christians who are committed to evangelizing for they are persecuted, but no one is persecuted for faith in Jesus. I am not religious myself. Catholics are free in Iran, because as you wrote they do not commit evangelism. But what you write about me: Actually Amin distinguishes the Christians not being persecuted are “Catholics” and the Christians that are arrested and persecuted are “Evangelicals. Yes that is true.
About two persons: Maryam Rustampoor and Marzieh Amirizadeh, both are free now in Iran. Only one execution has happened in 1990 by the Iranian government because of apostasy. In Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Egypt people burn Churches, killing Christians and rape them. In Iraq last year 1000 Christians were killed. Could you name 10 Christians in Iran only murdered or executed? Please name them.
You are right about this: “Expressly it is illegal for Christians to preach the Good News of Jesus Christ in the Iranian language of Farsi. Christians in speech and written material can only share the faith in the ancient languages of the Christian Churches”. But this is just men executed for using Farsi in Iran. [SlantRight Editor: Women get life imprisonment]
Armenians can work in banks. They can have jobs. You wrote 350000 people convert Christianity. Are they all in prison?? If you are right all 350000 should be in prison. In Saudi Arabia if a Muslim converts to Christianity he will be beheaded. As I wrote, in Iran only in 1990 one man was executed. Why are you paying no attention to Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq and Saudi Arabia? In Sudan over 1000 Christian are killed by genocide. That is the reason why Sudan broke down in the south and north. Is the same thing happening in Iran as in those other nations? Many say that in Iran exists Anti-Semitism. Over 10000 Jews live in Iran. How could Anti-Semitism be possible if 10000 Jews live in Iran? Iran is Anti-Zionist and not Anti-Semitic. The only [thing] wrong with Iran is that Russia is friend and Israel is an enemy. [A good comparison is] like North Korea is the USA’s enemy and Saudi Arabia is a USA friend. Christians have poor conditions, but no one protests because being friends with USA….
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Okay, let’s address Amin’s latest assertions.
Amin says first he lives in Iran and knows everything about Iran.
Amin’s comment expresses pride in his nation and his religion of Islam. I can’t fault him for that; however Amin ignores the repression that Christians experience in Iran treated as a subclass with no freedom to express their faith in the Farsi tongue of Iran. Amin’s claim that he “knows everything about Iran” still suggests he is self-deluded about the lack or civil rights in Iran for any minority in Iran which includesMuslim Kurds and Baha’i-Iranians. In asserting the Iranian government is guiltless for murders that occur outside of State sanctioned executions is one of the lamest thought patterns I have come across. For Amin Islamic Supremacism is a norm, meaning those that wish the freedom of expression and religion apart from Shia Islam must be punished and deserve what they get. Is it just me or does it sound lame that Amin seems to view everything with “Catholic” Christians as idyllic and yet ignores the persecution of other minorities? What is in Amin’s mind when he chooses the recognized Iranian Churches subservience to the State as a good time?
Amin goes on to say: “Second I do not write [about] Christians who are committed to evangelizing for they are persecuted, but no one is persecuted for faith in Jesus.”
In essence Amin is saying it is cool to persecute Evangelical Christians. Then Amin adds a “but”. He claims NO ONE is persecuted for faith in Jesus. Amin Evangelicals have faith in Jesus! I am guessing Amin’s thought that no one is persecuted for having faith in Jesus is meant from a Muslim perspective. The Muslim perspective is that Jesus is not the Christ the Son of the Living God that died on the Cross, was buried for three days and rose again on the third day reasserting the Lord’s Divine aspects making Jesus both fully man and fully God in one person.
Guess what? The “Catholic” Christians believes that Jesus is the Son of God as well. Simply put the approved Catholic Churches that continue operation have chosen not to share about Jesus’ Godhood outside of the four Church walls. I am also guessing the subject is avoided within the Church walls as well for fear spies will expose a report to the Mullah – you-better-not-offend-Islam – police.
Coming on the heels of the International Day of Prayer for the Persecuted Church(Nov. 8), Christian religious-freedom groups celebrated a victory yesterday in Iran. Marzieh Amirizadeh Esmaeilabad, 30, and Maryam Rustampoor, 27 — two Iranian converts to Christianity — were freed after being imprisoned for 259 days.Authorities raided the women’s apartment, which contained “Christian literature,” on March 5. The women were charged with anti-state activity, spreading Christianity, and apostasy (deserting one’s faith), and were placed in Tehran’s notorious Evin prison.In Iran, apostasy alone is punishable by execution or life in prison. The country has been placed on several watch lists of places that repress religious freedom. Recently, Iran has come under fire for jailing believers following raids on churches and homes belonging to Christians.While in custody, reports came that the two women endured “intense interrogations which have reportedly included sleep deprivation and other psychological pressure.” In the past, Evin in particular has been accused of denying its inmates basic rights, and both women suffered from poor health that went untreated. Iranian-American scholar Haleh Esfandiari just released a memoir about her hellish eight-month stay in Evin following a routine visit in 2006 with her elderly mother.Additionally, the women were heavily pressured to reclaim Islam. Back in August, a judge urged them to renounce Christianity. When Esmaeilabad and Rustampoor would not do so, they were sent back to jail “to think about it.” According to BosNewsLife, at one point in the hearing, one of the women said God had spoken to them through the Holy Spirit
Amin does admit that persecution against Christianity is heavy in other Muslim nations, yet he implies that I don’t write about those situations. Actually I do write about persecution in other Middle Eastern way more than I do about Iranian intolerance. Actually most of the mention of Iranian intolerance is toward Jews and Israel.
If it wasn’t so serious I would have to laugh that the death sentence for apostasy is ONLY aimed at men. I chuckled because women are given a life sentence (officially anyway) for apostasy as if sparing a lady’s life to live the rest of her days in the hell of prison was a good thing in Iran. As you can see, the two Muslim gals written above endured time in prison under the most horrible of tortures. Now doesn’t that sound like enlightened Iranian jurisprudence?
Check this statement out: “Armenians can work in banks. They can have jobs.”
The reality for all Christians in Iran regardless of approved or Evangelical is a bit different:
Christians have none of the risk factors for rebellion. They do have one risk factor for protest: significant political and cultural restrictions. By and large, conditions for the vast majority of Christians in Iran has remained unchanged over the past decade. Despite Khatami’s assurances of greater minority rights in Iran, Armenian and Assyrian Christians face continued, systematic state-directed discrimination, particularly in the realm of politics. Iran’s future attitude toward Christian nations of the West will likely signify the extent to which it will internally tolerate its own Christian minority. As long as Islamic fundamentalism retains a significant voice within Iranian politics, Christians will remain at risk.…Christians, in general, are allowed to participate in Iran’s economic and social life and have achieved a high standard of living. However, Christians, including those recognized by the state as official religious minorities, have encountered officially sanctioned discrimination in the areas of employment, education, public accommodations, the legal system and property ownership. Many Christian schools were taken over by the government after the 1979 revolution. All Iranian students must be instructed in Islam regardless of their religion. All religion classes must be taught in Persian, and all Armenian literature classes must receive government approval. The Ministry of Education requires that all school principals, including those of Armenian parochial schools, be Muslims. Tests in Islamic theology are required for all university applications, university positions and public sector jobs. The Iranian courts had been giving lower awards and larger penalties to Christians in lawsuits over injuries or death, although some progress was made in 2003: legislation was passed to make blood money payments for Christians equal with Muslims. It is often difficult for a Christian to obtain a passport. The publication of Christian texts, while legal, rarely receives the necessary government approval. Christians in Iran have also encountered various forms of harassment by the Iranian government including torture, long-term imprisonment (with and without trial), unfair trials (often accusing them of spying or other trumped up charges), and execution. However, recently there have been no reports of arrests and executions. (Excerpted from Minority at Risk (MAR) report:Assessment for Christians in Iran)
Amin writes: “You wrote 350000 people convert Christianity. Are they all in prison?? If you are right all 350000 should be in prison.”
Amin’s Islamic Supremacism backed by Sharia Law is spilling all over the place in this thought. Amin assumes that if there is so many Evangelical Christians then they must be in prison. The number of “350,000” is actually representative of the growing underground (Evangelical) Home Church Movement. In Amin’s mind the Evangelicals need to be divided from the Catholic Church much as a weak steer is culled from the herd of cattle. Unfortunately for Amin the Evangelicals probably are not the weak Christians for they have sold out to be committed Christians regardless of the law of the land that says they should not exist.
Amin asks: “Is the same thing happening in Iran as in those other nations?”
At this point the amount of Christians in Iran is less than 1% of the 72,903,921. This has not always been the case since intolerant Islam hit Persia-Iran. Even in 1979 there was a further action of mass fleeing from the Iranian Mullocracy. It is my guess that Christians experience the horror if Islamic intolerance is due to some of the smallest numbers of Christians in a Muslim nation. Thus Egypt with the largest amount of a Christian population has the most visible amount of horrific persecution.
Amin writes: “Many say that in Iran exists Anti-Semitism. Over 10000 Jews live in Iran. How could Anti-Semitism be possible if 10000 Jews live in Iran? Iran is Anti-Zionist and not Anti-Semitic. The only [thing] wrong with Iran is that Russia is friend and Israel is an enemy.”
This is what I found out about Jews in Iran. In 1948 there were 100,000 Jews in Iran. In case you are not familiar with 1948, that is the year that Israel became an independent nation and attacked by 4 – 5 Muslim nations intent to drive Jews into the sea. In 2004 the Jewish population in Iran numbered 20,000 – 25,000. According to some data I found from a pro-Iranian article there were 25,000 Jews in Iran in 2010. I am guessing Amin is uninformed when he writes there are 10,000 Jews in Iran today OR since he knows everything that goes on in Iran there was a mysterious genocide of 10,000 to 15,000 Jews.
Amin’s claim that Iran is Anti-Zionist and not Anti-Jewish is a bit lame. The statement can only be true through the eyes filtered through Islamic Supremacism in which Jews that don’t rock the boat and live as second class citizens in fear of offending Muslims by practicing their faith openly explains the difference between Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism.
By the way Zionism is a way of Jewish thinking that crosses the political spectrum between Left and Right. The goal of Zionism is like an inner homing device that calls Jews back to their homeland promised to them by God Almighty.
Zionism is the Jewish national movement of rebirth and renewal in the land of Israel – the historical birthplace of the Jewish people. The yearning to return to Zion, the biblical term for both the Land of Israel and Jerusalem, has been the cornerstone of Jewish religious life since the Jewish exile from the land two thousand years ago, and is embedded in Jewish prayer, ritual, literature and culture.Modern Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in response to the violent persecution of Jews in Eastern Europe, anti-Semitism in Western Europe. Modern Zionism fused the ancient Jewish biblical and historical ties to the ancestral homeland with the modern concept of nationalism into a vision of establishing a modern Jewish state in the land of Israel. (Click the “What is Zionism?” to read more)
The thing that united religious Jews with liberal and often irreligious Jews is the fact of persecution in the West that should have been a safe haven of religious and political freedom. The Hitler genocide of nearly SIX MILLION Jews by 1945 became the catalyst that the Western World War II victors to look the other as the old League of Nations promise through the then super power of Great Britain could be fulfilled from the 1920s. The Hitler genocidal catalyst is the weapon that Islamic Supremacism hates the most. That is why Anti-Semitists in the West and Muslim apologists love to claim the home of the Jews is not Israel but the various European nations that barely tolerated the Jewish Diaspora last created by the Romans in the time period roughly between 70 AD and 135 AD. As we might say in America that simply is not true. Zionism – or the hunger to return home – is ingrained into the DNA of every Jewish person. Yeah I know that opens the argument of defining Jewry as a religion or a race. Frankly being Jewish is both a religion and a race.
People have converted to Judaism by either a Gentile woman marrying a Jewish male, a Gentile male undergoing painful adult circumcision to marry a Jewish sweetheart or simply a male or female attracted to the God of Abraham, Isaac (NOT Ishmael) and Jacob (renamed Israel by God Almighty). So yes there has been a mixture of Gentile DNA with Jewish DNA over the years depending on the nation Jews were lucky enough to put down roots. Incidentally that Jewish-Gentile DNA mixing occurred to the European, African and Middle Eastern Diaspora Jews. That includes Iranian Jews.
Let me finish my assertion that Christians are persecuted to the point of murder or execution with some of this information.
Recent Persecution of Christians in Iran(video posted May 12, 2011)· 2005 – Pastor Ghorbandordi Tourani – Iranian House Church Leader murdered near his house in Gonbad-e Kavous, November 22· 2007 – Mohammad Jaberi, May 2007, Executed (hanged) in Evin Prison· 2007 – Mohammad Ali Jafarzadeh, May 2007, Executed (hanged) in Evin Prison· 2008 – Abbas Amiri), August 1, House Church Isfahan, died from injuries sustained when secret police raided a house church service hosted at their house and severely beat him.· 2008 – Sakineh Rahnama), August 3, wife of Abbas Amiri, died from injuries sustained when secret police raided a house church service hosted at their house and severely beat her. (From: Martyred & Imprisoned Christian Leaders in Iran; Farsinet.com)
Yosef Nadarkhani is scheduled for execution after appeals process has gone full circle:
Iran’s Supreme Court has upheld a lower court ruling that Yosef Nadarkhani a 32 year-Old Iranian evangelical pastor, must reject his Christian faith or be put to death. It’s the latest incident in the Islamist Republic’s continuous and increased assault on its small Christian population.Nadarkhani was first arrested on the charge of apostasy (leaving Islam for another faith) in October 2009 and sentenced to death by hanging for his refusal to teach Islam to Christian children. While Nadarkhani hadn’t practiced any faith before he became a Christian at age19, he was born to Muslim parents and thus considered to be a Muslim under Islamic law.As such, Nadarkhani’s conviction was upheld in September 2010 by a lower Iranian court when it found that he had proven his apostasy by “organizing evangelistic meetings, sharing his faith, inviting others to convert, and running a house church.” At that point, Nadarkhani appealed to Iran’s Supreme Court to have his death sentence reversed but that appeal has now been rejected.To Mohammad Ali Dadkhah, Nadarkhani’s attorney, the Iranian court decision came as a surprise as only one month ago he had been under the impression that his client’s appeal had been granted. Instead, Nadarkhani now stands to be the first Iranian Christian executed for apostasy since 1990. (Iran’s Christian Shutdown, by Frank Crimi,FrontPageMag.com, July 19, 2011)
I have to say Amin, Iran is not friendly to anyone who is a non-Muslim.
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**Unedited Amin Comment:
I answered you in thas way:friest I live in iran,I know every thing about iran.second I do not write christian who commited evangelize are persecuted,but no one for faith on jesus persecuted.I am irreligion my self.catholic are free in iran,because as you wrote they do not commited evengelical. but what you write about me:Actually Amin distinguishes the Christians not being persecuted are “Catholics” and the Christians that are arrested and persecuted are “Evangelicals. yes that is true.
about two person:Maryam Rustampoor and Marzieh Amirizadeh,both are free now.in iran only one execution happened in 1990 by iranian goverment because of apostate….in afganistan,pakistan,saudi,yemen,egypt people burn churches,killing christians,rape them. in iraq last year 1000 christians were killed,could you name 10 christians in iran only murdered or executed…..please name….
you are right about that:”Expressly it is illegal for Christians to preach the Good News of Jesus Christ in the Iranian language of Farsi. Christians in speech and written material can only share the faith in the ancient languages of the Christian Churches”.but just on men executed for that.in iran
Armenian could work in bank.they could have jobs.you wrote 350000 people convert christianity .are they all in prison??if you are right all 350000 should be in prison….in saudi arabia if a muslim converts christianity he will be beheaded.as I wrote in iran only in 1990 one men was executed.why you pay no attention in pakistan,yemen,iraq,saudi.in sudan over 1000 christian killed by genocide.that is reason why sudan broke down in south and north..which of them happening in iran.many said in iran antisemetic exists.in iran over 10000 jews live.how it could be possible if 10000 jews live.iran is ati zionism not antisemetic.the only wrong with iran is that he is russia friend and israel enemy like north korea.saudi is Usa friend.christians have poor condition.but no one protest because being friend with usa…..
about two person:Maryam Rustampoor and Marzieh Amirizadeh,both are free now.in iran only one execution happened in 1990 by iranian goverment because of apostate….in afganistan,pakistan,saudi,yemen,egypt people burn churches,killing christians,rape them. in iraq last year 1000 christians were killed,could you name 10 christians in iran only murdered or executed…..please name….
you are right about that:”Expressly it is illegal for Christians to preach the Good News of Jesus Christ in the Iranian language of Farsi. Christians in speech and written material can only share the faith in the ancient languages of the Christian Churches”.but just on men executed for that.in iran
Armenian could work in bank.they could have jobs.you wrote 350000 people convert christianity .are they all in prison??if you are right all 350000 should be in prison….in saudi arabia if a muslim converts christianity he will be beheaded.as I wrote in iran only in 1990 one men was executed.why you pay no attention in pakistan,yemen,iraq,saudi.in sudan over 1000 christian killed by genocide.that is reason why sudan broke down in south and north..which of them happening in iran.many said in iran antisemetic exists.in iran over 10000 jews live.how it could be possible if 10000 jews live.iran is ati zionism not antisemetic.the only wrong with iran is that he is russia friend and israel enemy like north korea.saudi is Usa friend.christians have poor condition.but no one protest because being friend with usa…..
Bussel Writes on the Idiocy of a Palestinian State Gratis the UN
John R. Houk
© September 19, 2011
It is expected the U.N. General Assembly is ready to vote into existence a sovereign Palestinian State at the expense of Jewish heritage and Israel’s existence. It is equally true the U.N. General Assembly does not have the legal right according to its own Charter to confer Statehood on Palestinian sovereignty. The act of creating sovereignty is in the hands of the U.N. Security Council. The best the Palestinians can expect is the designation of a non-voting Observer entity.
On the other hand Observer status will undoubtedly lead to a load of complications as the non-sovereign Palestine will be afforded all the covenant and treaty applications of Member States; e.g. joining the International Criminal Court and that body’s already confirmed willingness to prosecute Israel for accused war crimes that should be better leveled against Islamic Palestinian terrorists.
The United States, whether it is from the American Ambassador or from President Obama, should in no uncertain terms hold the General Assembly to account. I have serious doubts about BHO’s commitment to Israel’s existence. You might ask: What’s it to America in desiring U.N. compliance to protecting Israel’s heritage and security? The pesky Third World and Islamic nations should pay attention to American influence or suffer the withdrawal of American financial support to the U.N. Body in general. Hello! America pays the biggest bill to support the U.N. budget.
With such dependence on U.S. money, it is silly to allow a bunch of Muslim and Left Wing Multicultural nations dictate something that most Americans would not agree with even though the Obamasiah might agree with (AND yet another reason to NOT vote for Obama in 2012).
You need to read what Ari Bussel writes (Below my thoughts at SlantRight.com) about the Anti-Semitic U.N. General Assembly that has the desire to give sovereignty to a group of people that cannot even take care of themselves because their entire economy is based on the foreign dole and the generosity of the very nation Muslim wish to destroy.
JRH 9/19/11
Ethnic Cleansing of Jews in Arab Countries
Here is a video I was made aware of by James Williams of United for Israel. The video briefly traces the history of Jews residing in Muslim lands until they were ethnically cleansed when Israel declared independence as a Jewish State.
Here is the description of the video followed by the video.
JRH 9/17/11
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James Williams Email Message
Sent: Sep 17, 2011 at 4:02 AM
Dear friends,
When it comes to refugees in the Middle East many talk about Arabs who fled the
Holy Land during the Arab attack on Israel. Did you know that there are
millions of Jews who were made refugees in Arab nations? This video sets the
facts strait and will help you understand the truth about the Middle East, a truth
to share with the world.
Holy Land during the Arab attack on Israel. Did you know that there are
millions of Jews who were made refugees in Arab nations? This video sets the
facts strait and will help you understand the truth about the Middle East, a truth
to share with the world.
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Ethnic Cleansing of Jews in Arab Countries
Ethnic Cleansing of Jews in Arab Countries – Shocking! Watch This! Hit Like To Support The Jews!
Up to one million Jews have been forced to flee from Arab countries and hundreds of Jewish communities have been ethnically cleansed throughout this century. Most of these refugees now live in Israel and their old homes are no more. In fact, Jews who immigrated to Israel from Arab and Muslim lands and their descendants constitute about 50% of Jewish Israelis.
In the history of the Arab-Israel conflict, the United Nations have made 687 resolution about the conflict. 101 of these resolutions dealt with the issue of refugees. It is astonishing to know that NOT ONE SINGLE resolution deals with the issue of Jewish refugees from Arab countries. All 101 resolutions are about Palestinian refugees only. This is the hypocrisy of the United Nations.
The documentary is named “The Forgotten Refugees”.
WWIII Focused on Israel and who Else?
John R. Houk
© September 16, 2011
The beginning of WWIII might be looming. The nation central to the possibility of world war is – you guessed it – Israel. That which is surprising is the powder keg surrounds two other nations other than Israel. You might think Syria and Iran might be the belligerents or perhaps Islamic terrorists like Hamas, Hezbollah and the deceptive Palestinian Authority (PA) which in turn is only the Western validation of the Islamic terrorist organization of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). The PLO is an umbrella organization of which Fatah calls the shots. Hamas is not a part of the PLO because it is corrupt and in many instances an oligarch of socialist minded Muslims relying on Arab nationalism more than Islam.
James Williams in a Personal Message to the members of United for Israelsummarizes a DEBKAFile publication reporting that Turkey is threatening Israel’s Navy if it reaches beyond a 12 mile limit. Because of Turkish belligerence or perhaps in anticipation of Turkish Belligerence, Greece and Israel has signed a secret Military Pact. Greece’s involvement is based on Turkish belligerence being weighed against Greek sovereignty of small islands in the Mediterranean Sea. Things have not been nice between Turkey and the Greek people ever since the defunct Ottoman Empire began conquering Eastern Europe beginning with the fall of the Byzantine Empire in 1453 with the capture of the Capital City Constantinople. The Turks ravished Constantinople destroying Churches and making one of the world’s oldest and largest Church edifices – Hagia Sophia – into a Mosque.
Several thousand of the survivors had taken refuge in the cathedral: nobles, servants, ordinary citizens, their wives and children, priests and nuns. They locked the huge doors, prayed, and waited. {Caliph} Mahomet {II} had given the troops free quarter. They raped, of course, the nuns being the first victims, and slaughtered. At least four thousand were killed before Mahomet stopped the massacre at noon. He ordered a muezzin {one who issues the call to prayer} to climb into the pulpit of St. Sophia and dedicate the building to Allah. It has remained a mosque ever since. Fifty thousand of the inhabitants, more than half the population, were rounded up and taken away as slaves. For months afterward, slaves were the cheapest commodity in the markets of Turkey. Mahomet asked that the body of the dead emperor be brought to him. Some Turkish soldiers found it in a pile of corpses and recognized Constantine {XI} by the golden eagles embroidered on his boots. The sultan ordered his head to be cut off and placed between the horse’s legs under the equestrian bronze statue of the emperor Justinian. The head was later embalmed and sent around the chief cities of the Ottoman empire for the delectation of the citizens. Next, Mahomet ordered the Grand Duke Notaras, who had survived, be brought before him, asked him for the names and addresses of all the leading nobles, officials, and citizens, which Notaras gave him. He had them all arrested and decapitated. He sadistically bought from their owners {i.e., Muslim commanders} high-ranking prisoners who had been enslaved, for the pleasure of having them beheaded in front of him.
(Fregosi, Jihad, 256-7.)[Quote Posted from: Eurabian nights: The final chapter; Occidental Libertas]
Here is a depiction of what happened to Churches, Monasteries and the Hagia Sophia in particular:
Bands of Ottoman soldiers began now looting. Doors were broken, private homes were looted, their tenants were massacred. Shops in the city markets were looted. Monasteries and Convents were broken in. Their tenants were killed, nuns were raped, many, to avoid dishonor, killed themselves. Killing, raping, looting, burning, enslaving, went on and on according to tradition. The troops had to satisfy themselves. The great doors of Saint Sophia were forced open, and crowds of angry soldiers came in and fell upon the unfortunate worshippers. Pillaging and killing in the holy place went on for hours. Similar was the fate of worshippers in most churches in the city. Everything that could be taken from the splendid buildings was taken by the new masters of the Imperial capital. Icons were destroyed, precious manuscripts were lost forever. Thousands of civilians were enslaved, soldiers fought over young boys and young women. Death and enslavement did not distinguish among social classes. Nobles and peasants were treated with equal ruthlessness.
According to Historian Frantzis the invaders broke the heads of those women who resisted, on the floor of the churches and they raped them dead. The famous icon of Apostole Loukas was totally destroyed. The sultan asked for the young sons of Duke Loukas Notaras. Their father refused and Mehmed was ready to take their heads. Notaras asked him to kill him after his sons so that he was sure that they were dead and not disgraced from the pervert sultan. And this is what happened. (Excerpt fromCONSTANTINE XI PALAEOLOGUS (1449-1453) FALL OF CONSTANTINOPLE “Ealo h Polis”)
This followed ultimately in conquering the Balkan Christian nations which included the Greek speaking peoples of Greece and the Ionian western part of present day Turkey.
Now that I have expressed my disapproval of the murderous aspects of Islam that has not changed much since those medieval days, let me return to the personal message of James Williams about how Turkey may be the instrument of the beginning of WWIII at worst and at least (but perhaps even more worse) the instrument that raises the Muslim world to unite to destroy Israel.
JRH 9/16/11
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Things Heating Up With Turkey
Sent by James Williams
Sent: September 16, 2011
Sent to Members of United for Israel
I thought I would send a little update on how things are going in the Middle East.
From Debka File: “Turkish frigates to confront Israeli vessels, disable their weapons”
From Debka File: “Turkish frigates to confront Israeli vessels, disable their weapons”
The Erdogan government sharply ratcheted up its threat of war on Israel Monday, Sept. 12 with a report that three Turkish Navy frigates are to sail for the eastern Mediterranean “to ensure freedom of navigation and confront Israeli warships if necessary.”
As Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan was set to start a visit to Egypt, Turkish naval sources reported: “If Turkish warships encounter an Israeli military ship outside Israel’s 12-mile territorial waters, they will advance up to 100 meters from the ship and disable its weapon system.”
The threat bluntly applied to Israel’s naval enforcement of its UN-approved blockade of the Gaza Strip.
DEBKA file’s military sources report that this is more than a threat of belligerence against Israeli naval shipping; it is also an attempt to dictate the terms of its threatened military engagement at sea with Israel and arbitrarily lay down the outer limits of Israel’s territorial waters. One of its goals is to deprive Israel’s deep sea gas wells of naval protection.
Turkish naval sources report that the frigates assigned the mission against Israel belong to its Southern Sea Area Command.
“Israeli-Greek defense pact invoked versus Turkish naval and air movements”
Israel and Greece have invoked the mutual defense pact they signed secretly only 12 days ago in the light of heavy Turkish sea and air movements in the eastern Mediterranean. DEBKA file ‘s sources report that this was decided in a long nocturnal phone conversation Wednesday night Sept. 14 between the Israeli and Greek prime ministers, Binyamin Netanyahu and George Papandreou, and at Israel’s expanded cabinet of eight, which was called into session over the Turkish threat to its off-shore oil and gas rigs.
The Greek Prime Minister added to the information recorded so far on Turkish fleet movements in the Aegean and Mediterranean Seas. He was particularly concerned by the observation flights suddenly increased in the past 48 hours over the Greek island of Kastelorizo in the southeast Mediterranean just two kilometers from the Turkish coast. Those flights are escorted by Turkish combat jets.
Athens fears a Turkish attack on the island, whose population is fewer than 1,000, and an attempt to damage or seize it. Israel suspects that a Turkish attack on the Greek island will be the signal for Turkish military aggression against its oil and gas platforms located in the Mediterranean between Israel and Cyprus. Papandreou said the Turks are capable of surprise attacks on additional Greek islands near the Turkish coast.
NEWT WILL PROSECUTE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD GROUPS!
I’m not really a Newt fan; however the rhetoric about viewing Muslim Brotherhood American affiliates in a hostile manner works for me.
JRH 9/15/11
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NEWT WILL PROSECUTE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD GROUPS!
By Tom Trento
Sent: Sep 15, 2011 at 8:49 PM
ATTENTION ALL PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES NEWT will prosecute “STEALTH” MUSLIM TERRORISTS.
WILL YOU?
National security experts agree that the next President of the United States must take seriously the internal threat of Muslim Brotherhood organizations like CAIR, ISNA, and NAIT.
Whereas as the current Administration has failed to effectively name the enemy and actually joined in “partnership” with organizations intent on destroying America, the next Administration must investigate and prosecute those Muslim leaders and organizations who have subversive goals.
In this 2 minute video, Speaker Gingrich states clearly and unequivocally what the next leader of the free world must do to combat Islamic terrorism in America.
We believe that on the issue of Muslim terrorism in America, Candidate Gingrich has set the bar for all other Presidential candidates to meet, or exceed.
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MELANIE MORGAN’S 9/11 SPEECH IN SUPPORT OF OUR TROOPS
Move America Forward held a 9/11 memorial with Melanie Morgan. MAF is one of the premier pro-troops groups in America. Certainly MAF confronts dumb appeasers who would rather sacrifice our nation for a false peace; however that is not the primary purpose of MAF. MAF organizes drives that send care packages to our troops defending our Liberty and engaging Islamic terrorists because OUR nation was invaded on 9/11.
Now just a little heads up about the part of the Melanie Morgan speech. This must not have been a media event because Morgan speaks straight and gruffly about Islamic terrorists that is sure to offend American Leftists. Good I hope it does.
Below is the MAF intro email that will include links to signing for a care package or two or three or more for our troops to have essentials from home.
JRH 9/13/11
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MELANIE MORGAN’S 9/11 SPEECH IN SUPPORT OF OUR TROOPS
“WE HAVE TO BE READY TO FIGHT AGAIN”
Sent by Move America Forward
Sent: 9/13/2011 5:32 PM
The 10th Anniversary of the 9/11 attacks has passed us now, and we hope you spent the day doing all you could to reflect on 9/11 and support our troops in the wars that followed and continued to this day.
We now invite you to watch and listen as Melanie Morgan speaks out in support of our troops. This video was taken from the 9/11 Remembrance Rally in Pleasanton, California and attended by MAF Staffers and Melanie Morgan herself where she gave a rousing speech in support of our troops.
Melanie’s words remind us of what 9/11 means to each and every one of our troops and what it SHOULD mean to each of us. We hope her words remind you of WHY we MUST continue to support our troops still ten years later.
We cannot tire, we cannot rest, we cannot relent. Please donate now to help us continue our mission to support our troops until they can all come home VICTORIOUS.
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CNN Tea Party Debate Review
I did not have the opportunity to watch the CNN/Tea Party debate on Monday. So I began to search for opinions and have to admit I did not dig to deep because I came upon blogger Tina Hemond’s analysis. I enjoyed her evenhanded take on the debate that I have decided to cross post her piece here at SlantRight.
It is interesting that Hemond included Sarah Palin’s opinion on the Debate because of the wonder that she will enter the race for the GOP Presidential nomination.
JRH 9/13/11
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